'Well, Gautama, &c. (as in verse 28). (19)

'We see many beings in this world who are bound by fetters; how have you got rid of your fetters and are set free, O sage?' (40)

"Having cut off all fetters, and having destroyed them by the right means, I have got rid of my fetters and am set free, O sage." (41)

Kesi said to Gautama: 'What do you call fetters?'

[paragraph continues] To these words of Kesi Gautama made the following reply: (42)

"Love, hatred, &c., are heavy fetters, attachment is a dangerous one; having regularly destroyed them, I live up to the rules of conduct." (43)

'Well, Gautama, &c. (as in verse 28). (44)

'O Gautama, in the innermost heart there grows a plant which brings forth poisonous fruit; how have you torn it out?' (45)

"I have thoroughly clipped that plant, and torn it out altogether with its roots; thus I have got rid of the poisonous fruit." (46)

Kesi said to Gautama, 'What do you call that plant?' To these words of Kesi Gautama made the following reply: (47)

"Love of existence is that dreadful plant which brings forth dreadful fruit; having regularly torn it out, I live pleasantly." (48)

'Well, Gautama, &c. (as in verse 28). (49)

'Gautama, there is blazing up a frightful fire which burns the embodied beings; how have you put it out?' (50)

"Taking water, excellent water, from (the river) produced by the great cloud, I always pour it over my body; thus sprinkled the fire does not burn me." (51)

Kesi said to Gautama, 'What do you call the fire?' To these words of Kesi Gautama made the following reply: (52)

"The passions are the fire; knowledge, a virtuous life, and penances are the water; sprinkled

with the drops of knowledge the fire of the passions is extinguished and does not burn me." (53)

'Well, Gautama, &c. (as in verse 28). (54)

'The unruly, dreadful, bad horse, on which you sit, runs about, Gautama! how comes it to pass that it does not run off with you?' (55)

"I govern it well in its course by the bridle of knowledge; it does not go astray with me, it keeps to the right path." (56)

Kesi said to Gautama, 'What do you call this horse?' To these words of Kesi Gautama made the following reply: (57)

"The mind is that unruly, dreadful, bad horse; I govern it by the discipline of the Law (so that it becomes a well-) trained Kamboga-steed ." (58)

'Well, Gautama, &c. (as in verse 28). (59)

'There are many bad roads in this world, which lead men astray; how do you avoid, Gautama, going astray as you are on the road?' (60)